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I don't like the idea of recurring to other languages for vocabulary. Of course, we can use "international" words like "telephone", "internet" or "bank", but I think the language core should be mostly original. Panglossa | Talk 02:26, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

I concur. Razlem 02:29, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well at least make them logical. Come to think of it, I'm starting to really like te idea of a Tiengviet-style language that is purely syllabic. Here are some ideas:

•No distinction of anything in noun; particles, even for number, are used instead

•Verb conjugation is done somewat like this: hypothetical verb "nong" meaning "to eat": past nung, future/present nǝng, adjectival/adverbial ning, passive adds long stress (é), noun adds nazalization. This is really pushing it, but hey.

•further distinction is made in particles.

•There might be some form of Chinese-style classifier to substitute for gender. Maybe ì could be a classifier for artificial and ò for natural. Those could be used alone to be a definite particle and then one (say yam) could be indefinite so say "a bank" becomes "yam ì bãnk." —Detectivekenny; (Info) Preceding text certified by R. Xun as of 03:39, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Just an idea, but does anyone here know Icelandic's way of building words? It's quite fascinating. Icelandic went through a period of linguistic purism, so a lot of loanwords were erased and replaced with clever new words. For example, "police" in Icelandic is "lögreglan"; "lög" means law, and "reglan" means rule. Nurse, hjúkrunarfræðingur; "hjúkrunar" means "nursing", and "fræðingur" means "scholar". Another not so direct way is the Icelandic word for "electricity", "rafmagn", which comes from "raf", or "amber", and máttur, or "power". Just a thought! :) LctrGzmn 04:36, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Is there a system? It would be interesting, but if there isn't it would be best to keep an auxlang an auxlang. I never knew that, though. Thanks. —Detectivekenny; (Info) Preceding text certified by R. Xun as of 04:45, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well ususally it just follows a simple compound word formation rule, with the occasional epenthetic vowel to help them connect (since some words don't connect as easily). However, it does not need to be as extreme as compounding, for that might give you words like hjúkrunarfræðingur, :P Another idea I think could work is a less agglutinative way, though by use of combining words. Like in Spanish, the word for "toothbrush (oh hey, compound word ", "sepillo de dientes", literally means "brush of teeth". It's quite common, in many languages. Another example is shown in French such as the word for "toe", which is "doigt de pied", or "finger of foot". Get creative with it! It can be both really regular, or really irregular :) LctrGzmn 04:57, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Compounding exists in many languages including Esperanto (pomsuko, kantobirdo, kaftaso), and most languages include the system you mention here. However, both systems lack regularity. Take the example pomsuko in Esperanto and jugo de manzana in Spanish, both meaning "apple juice." Say you had no idea of the relation between "manzana" and "jugo." Is it juice made out of apples? Is it juice made from apples? Is it juice that you drink out of hollowed-out apples? Is it juice used to wash apples? One doesn't really know the relationship, so that method is highly irregular. However, it sounds really cool and should be considered. —Detectivekenny; (Info) Preceding text certified by R. Xun as of 14:33, May 28, 2010 (UTC)