User talk:Askadia

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Hi, welcome to Conlang! Thanks for your edit to the Haemiş page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- EmperorZelos (Talk) 2010-08-16T11:16:06

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I am taking a stab adn say you're the one who dropped a message on my page eh?

The Emperor Zelos 07:47, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I hope you are aware of multiple wrongs in your article when it comes to grammar.

The Emperor Zelos 08:03, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'm new to wikis and I do not know yet how to leave messages on discussion pages. Anyway, what kind of mystakes I did?

(P.S. You can delete the article about Haemis, it's the same as Language of the Valley I'm working on right now, but Haemis is about 1 year ago.)

oh really? I got a message from someone with little knowledge about linguistics on my page the other day, it was an IP adress and it had been active on your conlang.

well first of I suggest you use ~ whenever you type a message it will add your signature to the message.

The first one I can say is that Verbal Adjective/Participle you have put Active as a noun meaning the doer of the verb, but participles are adjectives alone and active participle means as in english the -ing form, as when you say "the walking man", its an adjective describing the noun as the performer of the verb

The Emperor Zelos 08:19, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Good, so my message did arrive! I wasn't sure you got it, cuz when I published, I wasn't able to find it XD.

Yup, verbal abjective and participle aren't really the right categories. I just pasted/copied all that from my MS Word stabs and I'm trying to translate them in a good English from Italian. However in Italian the word "cantante" (singer) is obviously a noun, but comes from "cantare" (to sing) and has the same form of the active participle (active: "cantante" = that singing / passive: "cantato" = that singed). Again, "presidente" (noun, president) comes from "presiedere" (to preside): the active participle of the verb is "presidente" (that is presiding) and the passive participle is "presieduto" (that presided). Linguisticly, i can assume that some languages can form/build their noun agents (English -er form: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_noun) and noun patient (English -ed form) from the participles.

As per the verbal abjective, I'm not sure about its english name. In Italian i call them "aggettivo verbale". I'm refering to them as per the Japanese adjective i-ending that acts like verbs. If you know a better name, I'm glad to change it.

Askadia 08:44, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

It did arrive and I suggest you look up on SOV languages and Tripartite as you dont seem to know about those too well. I have made careful choices on all of it and quite frankly in many ways my language is a highly typical SOV Tripartite language

they can form it from the participle or even have the participle form and agent form being one and the same but linguisticly they are quite different.

Name for what exacly?

The Emperor Zelos 09:37, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

About Tripatite: the choise mostly depends on what kind of language you want to build. If your intention is to make an uncommon/alien/magical/fantasy language, it's OK. I'm not saying that is wrong. Nothing could be wrong in a fictionally background. But among 5.000 natural languages all over the Word, just 10 or less are full-working tripartite, that's why I just wondered you did that choise.

About my language: since my language treats gerund, gerundive and participle in a different way (such as using aspect instead of mood), I think that calling that grammatical phenomenon as participle doesn't generate misunderstanding.

Askadia 10:34, September 24, 2011 (UTC)