Forum:Conlang Featuring

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''' of voting for June. '''

Discussion
DISCUSSION ISNT FOR VOTING! The Emperor Zelos 05:29, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Kti
I don't think I would be able to decide between pro and con; I think the language is unique and complete (in grammar). However, I find it moderately arbitrary, with most derivations being random and not seeming to take into account how languages evolve. As it is an alien language, I leave it up to you to decide whether this is a good thing or a bad thing. —Detectivekenny; (Info ) Preceding text certified by R. Xun as of 03:04, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I guess Rostov-na-don 03:15, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I believe it's still a little too early for me to vote, so here's something that was on my mind as I looked through your article. It's a language with potential, yes, but the major thing that irked me was the lack of indepth examples. Things came off as a bit unorganized as I read things, tried to grasp an idea of it, and then suddenly it's on to the next topic. I think examples other than the occasional tables (try using phrases instead of simple words, i.e. instead of i loved, try something like i loved to eat apples in the morning, or something that would provide a wider insight to the sentence formation, etc, etc.). Also, I noticed your personal pronouns only came in one -- unmentioned -- case? I don't know if you're still working on cases or not, but in a VOS language, it's going to be really hard for many if there aren't cases. On the other hand, I absolutely loved your animacy classifications, and find that, should you input declensions, they would be fascinating classes for declensions. Cymarþa fum zuð conleìňé su! (Good luck with your conlang!) LctrGzmn 06:57, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Truth is there are 27 cases and I'm too lazy to upload them now, t'be honest. Oh, and shouldn't in-depth examples be under 'Example text'? Thanks for the simple phrase tip, will use that :) Rostov-na-don 13:13, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

That's mighty hefty. Well it seems that the lack of cases puts you behind and you don't seem to meet the criteria. Luckily, you've got plenty of time. And no, ot necessarily. For example, some languages handle the subjunctive differently than others do, so examples on what's in the subjunctive definitely help. I'm not saying that your language needs help in the subjunctive -- for i'm not sure it even has it -- but this is just an example. Just helping out! :} LctrGzmn 03:30, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think I'm done with moods, so if it's not there, it's not in the language :] Anyways, I'ma start adding cases now, hopefully, this'll work out fine. The cases are prob'ly my biggest undertaking yet :) Rostov-na-don 01:57, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Draw
Just in case there is a draw, what shall we do? Continue voting, let Zelos decide, or possibly leave none featured? Rostov-na-don 16:57, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nominations:
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''' of nominating for June. '''

Nomination Rules

 * 1) The language must have the banner translated or be in a stage where it can be done by anyone.
 * 2) Conlangs may be re-nominated for another go after having won when 3 months have passed.
 * 3) State the purpose of the conlang in the description.

Nominating
EDIT: Uhh, I have a banner now, don't wanna be disqualified :P Rostov-na-don 16:04, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Kti
 * I just nominated to get some reviews on my language, to see where I have flawed, and where I have succseeded. I'm not saying that it's anywhere near extraordinary, magnificent or awesome, but it's not rubbish as well. Oh, I'll get back to relevant stuff just about now: I started to construct Kti simply for the sake of my story, and at this rate, when done with Kti, I will complete the language family represented in my story. Simply said, it's an artlang. Honestly, there isn't a banner or any translation whatsoever, simply because I think that grammar is more important than words, as words don't mean much without grammar. Rostov-na-don 13:48, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bengedian
 * I nominate this mostly because as far as i can see looking through it seems decent enough for a shot at the competition The Emperor Zelos 13:33, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ancient Qâêr
 * Do i need to say it? it was once up for it, it has waited long enough for a renomination and hence I set it up to give it some competition The Emperor Zelos 13:33, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Zxoaame
 * If the nominations haven't been cleared, I assume they were renewed. Anyways, I'd like to nominate my newest language, an artlang. It's not terribly complex in terms of linguistic potential, but I figure it can be featured material. Razlem 19:02, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Voting Rules
To make things clear, you can start voting before the 21st and until the last day (28th) change the votings whenever your heart so pleases. You will vote con or pro for a language, you don't have to do both, if you think it has only con then you vote con and describe why its con or pro. The rules will be these thought:
 * 1) Self voting does not count to the total (There are far too few of us to dilute the effect).
 * 2) Pro vote on oneself is a self vote
 * 3) Con vote on everyone else is self vote
 * 4) You may vote cons on all but one as a non-nominee, as nominee it is all but two. Pro votes may go to all but ones own conlang.
 * 5) Unregistered voters may not vote, but are still welcome to post comments and such.
 * 6) Newly registered people may not vote for 3 weeks and must be working on a conlang of some sort
 * 7) Try voting what you think looks best in accordance to these criterias.
 * 8) Realistic: Does the language look as if it could be spoken, written, listened to and read understandably?
 * 9) Goal: Does it reach the goal it is meant to fullfill, if it intends being universal judge it in accordance, if it tries being natural judge it in accordance.
 * 10) Completeness: How close is it to completion?
 * 11) Bots (ZeBot) cannot vote at all.

Ancient Qâêr

 * Con: There's a major flaw in the fact he has both a genitive and a possessive case. It's not so much that he has both cases, as one can be used for static and the other for passive possessions, but his "possessive case" seems more of a prefix for possessive adjectives than it does an actual case. The orthography, too, is almost non-existant, which I found pretty shallow for a language LctrGzmn 03:57, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why does the text matter? It can be easily romanized. Why is it a good thing for a conlang to use the latin alphabet? —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:42, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * ... I never said anything about whatever alphabet you're using. I just mentioned that you're explanation of the language's orthography isn't very good. All you do is point out the corresponding letter next to the IPA symbol next to non-latin characters, and that seems a bit messy as it is. LctrGzmn 00:36, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Count:
Kti: 0

Ancient Qâêr: -1

Bengedian: 0