Talk:Ælis

Random/silly inconsistencies! :D
Hi there. I'm the same guy who pointed out the apostrophe inconsistency. I also noticed that you seem to be using the "one" number concept ( 1 ), which is pronounced "æ", for w , which actually represents the letter æ. Thanks, and sorry if I sound naggy: I just really care about this language for whatever reason! :3

JackStupz (talk) 00:39, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your remarks. Glad you've taken interest! The apostrophe is used in between two letters as a reminder that sounds are to be pronounced separately, similar to a glottal stop. But there are no 'rules' for using the apostrophe in Romanisations, it may be omitted/ignored at any time. Though indeed both are pronounced [æ] /IPA: 'ɑɛ/, but the difference between 1 and w is the following: Hope this answers your questions! BinzNakama (talk) 21:36, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * The symbol " 1 " is a meaningful morpheme by itself. It means one according to the explanations given about number concepts.
 * The symbol " w " is one of the 21 letters of the alphabet and it is used to form other, 'regular' root words with, such as in " tW " [tæ] which means 'color'.

The letter Æ
To provide some constructive criticism, I love everything about your conlang, except one thing... the letter 'æ'. It bugs me. Why is this letter even in the lang? I think it would be just fine if you had the regular five-vowel system, or you could add some central vowel, like a schwa, for variation. When I try to pronounce a sentence, the flow of the rhythm is always interrupted when the letter 'æ' pops up, because I'm not sure if I should pronounce it like a diphthong or a vowel sequence. If I do pronounce it like a diphthong, it comes out as /ai/ instead of /aɛ/. That's just a beef I have. Let it stay or change it, but I'd personally be happier if you changed it.

Lufttygger (talk) 10:14, December 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm glad you're taking the time to provide some honest feedback. [æ] is indeed a diphthong, I think the most accurate IPA transcription might be /ɑɛ̯/, always having the stress on /ɑ/ and never on /ɛ/. It's like an /ɑ/ with a little appendix. I'm aware that the existence of æ breaks with the 'classic' 5-vowel paradigm, but it's in fact one of my favorite sounds in the language. Removing it would also include changing the name of the language, and I'm not likely to go there. However, a word of solace: due to the friction created by the æ and vowel combinations with e, a, and i, I'm quite certain that I will never add those vowel clusters as root words to the language. That way, pronouncing [æ] as /ai/ is not a problem, provided that the emphasis stays on /ɑ/.
 * BinzNakama (talk) 17:14, December 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, if you are allowed to pronounce it as /ai/, it's less of a problem, because I like that sound too. But, well, I was just confused, as I have never seen or heard an /aɛ/ diphthong before, and some part of my brain kept wanting to replace /ɛ/ with the pure semivowel /i/, and it just seemed strange. I guess I would need practice to pronounce it as /aɛ/. But it seems clearer that you are going for something very different from natural languages, and I admire that you are including a special letter because it has a good sound, logical or not. It's your lang, after all.
 * Lufttygger (talk) 18:15, December 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * All references to the International Phonetic Alphabet aside, the æ sounds similar to the English letter "I" or the word "eye". Here's a voice recording of myself pronouncing the alphabet. Thanks for putting this issue to my attention! I can update the pronunciation paragraph on the page to clarify all ambiguity.
 * BinzNakama (talk) 19:26, December 6, 2013 (UTC)