User talk:Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán

Update
Hi Mamûnám ontā́ bán,

I wanted to reach out and let you know that a month has passed since the initial fork notice was placed on the mainpage of the wiki. As I posted on May 24th, we do need to remove the fork notice from the mainpage. Will you do so today? Thanks, Jen Burton (help forum | blog) 18:35, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

If I must but I have to say it no longer advertises the move rather it shows that there was a discussion in the past.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  20:05, June 25, 2012 (UTC)

What's Next?
What do you plan for the wiki?

Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst! 21:04, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Well I think that the recent revamp did a lot to improve the wiki and I don't currently have any plans for major changes. I tinker if I notice things that can be improved. If you or anyone else has any suggestions let me know!  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  21:14, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

You should've just said "nothing.

In that revamp you mention, to my knowledge, only the main page was changed. Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst! 21:17, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

The main page was the focus but Waahlis also redesigned some of the templates with wikitables which suit the colour scheme better and I initiated the vote for a new featured language (we seem to have a fair number of active users now so it might be time to have another vote). Like I said, if you've any suggestions let me know.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  21:31, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't ask about Waahlis.

Anyway, you've screwed up voting because, honestly, if Rangyayo won, you should've updated the template.

Not to mention that it died down since.

Beh, if you want something done, just fucking do it yourself. Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst! 21:36, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Unlock the voting page, if you may. Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst! 21:37, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

And the featured lang template. Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst! 21:43, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Waahlis was part of the revamp, you asked about the revamp I mentioned.

Which template? The top of the page banner one?

Rangyayo died down because it left here and Deslee has been quite inacitve on both Wikia and Wikkii.

Look, calm down, I'm going to unlock the page but please don't swear at me, thanks.

Link me to the pages you mean so that I make sure I unlock the correct ones, cheers.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  21:45, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Forum:Conlang_Featuring and Template:FeaturedLang.

I'm not swearing at you, and I'm pretty calm. It's just how I roll.

@Rangyayo, not about it dying down, the voting dying down.

Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst! 21:47, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the links.

Oh right, the voting died down because of the move but hopefully there are enough people here now to have a decent turn-out again.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  21:50, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

They're now unlocked for registered users.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  21:51, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

I have added a notice on the main page.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  22:02, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

My first suggestion is to get a new admin's pick language, as Zelos just picked himself.

I push forward Ancient Qâêr for this.

Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst! 22:05, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I know :/ I've been meaning to change this for a while. I will look around the wiki tomorrow (including AQ, though that may have moved too).  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  22:09, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

I have used AQ (for now at least, I can replace it if I find a more fitting one). Sorry it took so long.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  08:31, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

custom font css
Hey there, could you do me a GREAT favor? Could you post this code in the MediaWiki:Common.css page? @font-face {font-family: 'Miranda Gothic'; font-style: Bold; font-weight: 600; src: local('Miranda Gothic Bold'), url('http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71081822/mirandese.woff') format('woff');} It's to be able to use my alphabet on the wiki, I'm not sure if it works with an external url though. --MIGUELbM 02:08, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Removing User Pages
Hello,

I have restored the user pagae at http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Umbrean. While I appreciate that this wiki has seen some turmoil and overturn of members, we have found that removing user pages usually does more harm than good. Please refrain from doing this in the future.--semanticdrifter http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 16:55, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

It's not a user page, it's a content page and the author did request I delete it.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  16:59, July 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the confusion here, but I meant to say that removing any user's pages following the decision to fork is a bad idea. Not just userpages,but content pages. Even if they requested it's removal, the terms of the CC-BY-SA license mean that the content should remain available to the community. Please do not try to delete pages, change fundamental elements of the site or otherwise damage the content. The wiki should be left intact and available for any future editors to use. We appreciate your cooperation.--semanticdrifter http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb32675/wikia/images/e/e9/WikiaStaff.png (help forum | blog) 22:32, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Reason
Why do you administer this place? I mean, there must be a reason. You're not nearly as active here as on Wikkii, and neither is Waahlis, so there must be something else keeping you from letting go. What is it? 20:15, July 3, 2012 (UTC) Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst!

P.S. I saw what you tried to do with Umbrean, and I'll say that you haven't learned your lesson. At least uphold the rules you enforce with such zeal. 20:25, July 3, 2012 (UTC) Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst!

I'm not going to dignify that with a response as we have discussed this before.

As far as things with Umbrean go, I wasn't contradicting my own rules. If you remember I was in favour of you being allowed to delete Kti from Wikkii. Besides, on Wikkii it's mainly Waahlis who deals with bureaucracy.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  09:26, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

What's the matter between you two guys? Can't you just request admin rights and ignore MOB?

190.25.47.85 03:41, July 4, 2012 (UTC) MIGUELbM 03:42, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

He did request admin rights and Wikia dismissed him.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  09:26, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

I never requested admin rights from Wikia, I requested the removal of Zelos' adminship on the basis of him breaking terms of use. Also, may I say, I requested said rights from you three, and you've refused with an argument equivalent to a "you are an ass hat, so no adminship hurr durr".I do not hold anyone in favour. You may have thrown in a good vote, but that changes nothing; anyone could have done that. It is you, though, who restored Kti on the wiki after blanking - by blanking Umbrean here, you just point out that you're a hypocrite. As I said, I don't hold anyone in favour, nor do I hold a grudge, while you seem to be gingerly trying to gain my trust or something.As for holding someone in favour, it doesn't go positive your way that, whenever I asked for something, you never delivered. 10:30, July 4, 2012 (UTC) Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst!And, your good vote is worth shit now that Kti's been restored. You throwing in another "oh no plz he wants it this way" is worth nill as the restoration is clearly vindicative (and for what? Haven't done anything except saying "You've suddenly decided to be active" on his talk page) ~ You've still given no answer. 10:34, July 4, 2012 (UTC) Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst!

I thought that you requested adoption rights to this wiki on the grounds that Zelos had left? I didn't put it like that, but I do feel that you may abuse admin rights. I didn't restore Kti, if you don't want Kti on Wikkii then I am favour of it staying off Wikkii. By blanking Umbrean here it shows that I am not a hypocrite, I was and am in favour of Kti's deletion from Wikkii since you don't want it there and I am in favour of deleting Umbrean from here because Zelos doesn't want it here any longer. In the past I'm sure you have said something along the lines of "I hold grudges - deal with it". What have you requested that I have denied or failed to deliver on? Assuming that the "you" refers to me personally and not to the three admins on Wikkii. Look, I don't know what you have against me, I understand you and Zelos have differences but I've tried to be civil with you, you just seem to want to create conflict. I was trying to answer but there were edit conflicts.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  10:39, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

Gods above, I said I don't hold grudges, yet you press on me reportedly saying I hold grudges, again and again.

1) I do not follow your logic of reasoning: "You are forbidden from blanking your page, but me blanking a page shows I am no hypocrite"

2) I don't care if you were in favour of Kti being removed or not. I am, due to my condition, physically incapable of forming any positive or negative opinion. That means that I seriously am not capable of holding a grudge or making a decent friendship.

3) You have always half-completed every major request. The one example that springs into mind is Ancient Qâêr, as I've asked for it to be featured as an Admin's Pick instead of Umbrean, while you've put it up as a Goddamn Example language! The only part of that request you actually did decently do was dethroning Umbrean.

4) Yes, I have requested adminship due to the absence of Zelos. And then I got denied because, mysteriously, two new admins popped up. And, despite Zelos claiming to want to move on, and with the wiki forked and all, I don't think it's due to proper procedure - it's just that you.PL are power-hungry to various extents.

5) Don't assume what people have said without having anything to back it up. I never said I hold grudges, much less to say that you must accept it - that's just not how I roll.

6) Still haven't answered my questions.10:51, July 4, 2012 (UTC) Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst!

I do not forbid people to blank pages, as long as the language belongs to them.

I think "Example language" is a better name for it. I would hardly say that that is a half-completed request. Anything else?

I am not power hungry at all, I just don't want to see the wiki ruined - I didn't even request adminship of either Wikkii or Wikia.

If by "questions" you mean the ones at the top of this subject then I've told you, they have been discussed.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  10:57, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

1) Yet it is forbidden by the notification on the page (and I know you don't like notifications saying stuff like "DON'T EDIT" and ignore them)

2) Why is "Example Language" a better name? There has to be a reason.

3) This wiki won't be ruined if you pass it on to someone else - doesn't even need to be me. Say, Wattman. Since you've advocated the move, then move to the other wiki. "I just don't want to see the wiki ruined" is not a good enough reason to keep exactly you here in power.

4) I'm a forgetful person - do explain again.11:02, July 4, 2012 (UTC) Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst!

Which page?

"Example language" is better than "Admin pick" because the language used is, after all, a language which is a good example of conlanging, "Admin pick" would also be untruthful since you suggested it and you are not an admin. "Pick" also means that the language doesn't necessarily have to be a good example.

Well Wattman hasn't been active lately has he? I think it's a good enough reason myself.  Pá mamūnám ontā́ bán  11:07, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

1) MY LANGUAGE =]

2) You have, after all, put it there while having veto power, therefore you, the admin, picked the language to be featured while weighing the pros and cons. It's an admin's pick.

3) He was just an example. But that's exactly it! Nobody's active here! You can't prevent the wiki from being ruined, when it's been ruined anyhow!

4) You still haven't answered my question. Stop avoiding it.11:11, July 4, 2012 (UTC) Rostov-na-don ist dein herr Oberst!