Talk:Thiskish

Looking Good
Your conlang is coming along quite nicely, though i would suggest a few things


 * 1) For letters use as much as you can only latin letters as that is what most people are capable or writting and used to use
 * 2) When deciding things always ask yourself "Why am I choosing this?" Because if the answer is "because im used to it" you really need to reconsider it
 * 3) Genders dont necciserly need to be Masculine/Feminine, there are languages with over 15 genders
 * 4) Cases are related to morphosynthatic alignment which if you dont know what it is might need to check out
 * 5) Cases can be vastely more (some languages have over 13)
 * 6) When picking sounds make sure it isnt solely whats from english as it will make it alot less natural and appear to be english ripoff

Hope that help for starters =)

EmperorZelos 12:43, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, here are some replies.


 * 1) I am trying to shift towards Latin but I also prefer Cyrillic and Greek because it is based on Proto Indo-European and Greek.
 * 2) What's wrong with Subject Verb Object and Place Manner Time? It is spoken in the same area as English and influenced by English.
 * 3) Why would I make it that complex? There are also some other less used genders.
 * 4) I just read up on that. Thiskish is a nominative–accusative language.
 * 5) Again, why make it so complex? The four basic cases are all I need.
 * 6) It definitely is NOT solely what is from English. It's mostly from Proto Indo-European.

—Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:33, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, I was merely suggesting it for the easyness of other learners
 * Nothing, i acctually never mentioned it, I was just giving you suggestions from experience that many new ones do
 * again, it is merely an example showing you the optoins
 * good, if you wish to keep it it is perfectly fine ^^ I am merely trying to help broading things for you
 * there is no reason, langauges just do it naturally and if you dont thats fine
 * I am was again just comming with suggestions on what to think on ^_^ keep it in mind and if you make same choices it is better


 * again, good luck!


 * EmperorZelos 21:04, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok. Lots of languages have over 4 cases? I prefer the three basic plus genitive. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:08, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually many languages have alot of cases, some even got one called vocative which is basicly like "HEY YOU!" style EmperorZelos 21:44, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I knew about vocative but decided to use the root word for that case, identical to accusative. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:27, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, there are also locative cases EmperorZelos 11:43, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I knew about those, but I didn't want to use them. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:00, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * EmperorZelos

Alright, that is perfectly fine ^_^ I would like to ask how you´ll do definitiveness to it as tehre is more than just undefined and defined 21:30, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * I do not understand. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:58, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Defined: The apple


 * Undefined: An apple


 * you can have semi defined which is like a nearby apple EmperorZelos 22:11, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * oh, in articles. I have those, partitive, negative and and an article for "every" one of the nouns. I don't know if I should add semi defined. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:42, February 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * alright, there are alot of optoins ^^ ive left out alot of the articles EmperorZelos 08:46, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Adjective and Noun Verbs
Have you started thinking on also participles and gerunds? EmperorZelos 10:41, March 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * No, what are those? And also, is the phonology good, or does it need to be improved? —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:05, March 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Please respond. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:46, March 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, didnt notice, Participles are verbs made into adjectives, for example the verb "to walk", "the WALKing dog", gerunds is a noun form of a verb, for example "WALKing is fun". in english they happen to be formed the same way but not all languages does so and i believe its few that does. and phonology isnt my best subject but it seems decent. EmperorZelos 11:48, March 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, I will work on those when I get the time. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:46, March 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * good, you can also use participles as "the man who walked" etc, greek used them alot


 * EmperorZelos 23:16, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Pronouns
On the pronouns, seeing as this language supposedly is based on some sort of IE/PIE I'm wondering how you got the 1st person sing. pronoun to li? :P Seeing as the PIE one is in the nom. *eǵoH and *mé in the accusative. It would be quite interesting to see the sound laws/changes it has adopted. Or perhaps it was used by ancient IE speakers in an area where another language was talked using l- as the first person pronoun (substrate). Just curious ~ Billy J.B(talk) 17:09, May 27, 2010 (UTC) :)

I don't understand. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:16, May 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * He think your conlang is Indoeuropean and say that your choice of first person singular word doesnt agree with expected phonological changes from proto-indoeuropean The Emperor Zelos 21:21, May 27, 2010 (UTC)