Talk:Wexalian

This comes from German and there's / ʒ/ but no /z/? How exactly did you get a  / ʒ/ without a /z/? Modern Standard German has /s/ /z/ /ʃ/ but no  / ʒ/ except in loanwords. It also has had all word-initial /s/ replaced with /z/ or  /ʃ/ depending on environment, and overall /z/ is just such a prominent sound in Standard German (think stereotypical German accents zhat talk like zhis, even using the voiced alveolar fricative for the voiceless /θ/ phonemes word-initially because of the non-occurence of word-initial /s/ in Standard German outside of of a few loanwords, all of which contain consonant clusters) while / ʒ/  is absent that I'm just confused.

Also, your think with ß and ſ is just weird. ß is from blackletter ſʒ (sz). in Standard German is /z/ (although it's affected by final devoicing and appearing before voiceless consonants) except before stops where it's  /ʃ/. <ſ> word-finally in all languages that used it is and <ß> is something else entirely, for example "through" and  "bit" (verb, old orthography). I know this language isn't supposed to be Standard German but I don't get it either.

Joersc ( talk ) 04:33, August 2, 2015 (UTC)